True Systems P-solo BETTER than RNP overall

[ILLmatic]

why?

because the RNP looks like the most amateur piece of ugly looking sh*t
it looks like a little children toy u got from toyworld for $10
esp when it says 'REALLY NICE PREAMP' that just makes it look so childish like its tellin ppl 'hey look im a preamp'.. i hate explainin everyone who comes in my studio that 'nah it actually is one of the best blah blah' u get sick of doing that all the time
seriously
if any of you who are living a outgoing lifestyle with lots of hunnies and club dudes comin around ur studio, u dont want that RNP sitting there for real! if ur a studio geek then its fine..

but yeh ive tried it, it sounds pro.. but ive also tried the true systems p-solo which sounds an INCH better but looks AMAZING

man girls can get ... by just looking at that sexy red shining, super proffesional looking P-solo box for real and it doesnt hurt that it sounds better than RNP

anyways i guess it depends on opinions, sum ppl are strictly only sound quality while mine is a mix of studio looks+quality

[scadh]

why?

because the RNP looks like the most amateur piece of ugly looking sh*t
it looks like a little children toy u got from toyworld for $10
esp when it says 'REALLY NICE PREAMP' that just makes it look so childish like its tellin ppl 'hey look im a preamp'.. i hate explainin everyone who comes in my studio that 'nah it actually is one of the best blah blah' u get sick of doing that all the time
seriously
if any of you who are living a outgoing lifestyle with lots of hunnies and club dudes comin around ur studio, u dont want that RNP sitting there for real! if ur a studio geek then its fine..

but yeh ive tried it, it sounds pro.. but ive also tried the true systems p-solo which sounds an INCH better but looks AMAZING

man girls can get wet by just looking at that sexy red shining, super proffesional looking P-solo box for real and it doesnt hurt that it sounds better than RNP

anyways i guess it depends on opinions, sum ppl are strictly only sound quality while mine is a mix of studio looks+quality

Speechless.

[TimOBrien]

So you're surprised that a unit that costs twice as much sounds better??

And if you buy your equipment based on how it looks, I want to sell you your next car....

(Not saying your review isn't valid, just questioning the tone of your values.... although I've read reviews in major magazine that had as much substance.)

[jason]

You could alway spray a clear coat on it for that extra sheen.

[jar4ever]

So you're surprised that a unit that costs twice as much sounds better??

And if you buy your equipment based on how it looks, I want to sell you your next car....

(Not saying your review isn't valid, just questioning the tone of your values.... although I've read reviews in major magazine that had as much substance.)

I would say his review isn't valid. It's completely based on what he thinks looks the best. If you want to pay more for looks, then go for it, but saying that one preamp is better then another because of looks isn't a valid review. As far as their sound, they are comparable and better would be a subjective choice.

[JF Omalycat]

anyways i guess it depends on opinions, sum ppl are strictly only sound quality while mine is a mix of studio looks+quality

ARE YOU KIDDING? I never by a piece of gear without factoring in the pantie-soaking effect, first! Even a "studio geek" like me knows THAT!
Jeez.....

Now if I could just figure out how to get the panties *off*........

[nanashiwanderer]

Being that the RNP costs 237.50 per channel

I bet you for the 362.50 more you have to pay per pre on the P-Solo I could make the RNP look just as good.

[Norkamus]

seriously
if any of you who are living a outgoing lifestyle with lots of hunnies and club dudes comin around ur studio, u dont want that RNP sitting there for real

It's small... Can't you just hide your shameful purchase under something? Put four beer cans standing on top, then one laying down in front. Your hunnies and club dudes will think you are PARTY CENTRAL YO.

You bought it... and I bet that deep down you like it.
What would I know? I've never tried to get a girl wet by showing her a pre amp...

[Losie]

Yea... I don't see how anyone without any knowlege of the gear at all would care when looking at it all... And someone who does know about it would be all "Wow.. an RNP.. nice!"

It's not like studio equipment is the same as a guitar or anything... Those have natural chick-magnet abilities... But I digress.

[Norkamus]

I'd love to have an RNP...If I had hunnies and dudes coming around my 'studio' I'd charge them money to see my RNP, to help pay it off. The D#$% thing costs 575$ here... I don't think that's "10$ toyworld" cheap at all.


Norkamus

[jason]

An excerpt from FMR's description of the RNP-

Ugly box. If you look beyond the RNP8380âs utilitarian ugliness, you all see that we opted to throw the money we saved in cosmetics into the quality of the audio electronics. I like having nice-looking gear as much as the next guy, but given the choice between something that sounds nice versus looks nice, the sound wins out everytime.

Apparently they are aware that their product doesn't need to look good to sound good.

[owel]

I have the RNC. Like the RNP, Yes, ugly box. Won't win any design awards.

I use a rack mount plate that allows me to have 2 RNCs (4channels) in 1u rack.

From a manufacturing point of view, chassis/rack eats up a whole lot of money. On my DIY projects, it's an additional 30% to 40% in my RAW COSTS for the rack case, knobs, and stuff (No labor costs yet).

Add another 100% for profit to cover manufacturing, R&D for the case, and you can see where your money is going when you buy gear.

[adhesive]

but yeh ive tried it, it sounds pro.. but ive also tried the true systems p-solo which sounds an INCH better but looks AMAZING

man girls can get wet by just looking at that sexy red shining, super proffesional looking P-solo box for real and it doesnt hurt that it sounds better than RNP

anyways i guess it depends on opinions, sum ppl are strictly only sound quality while mine is a mix of studio looks+quality

I don't know... the guy has tried both. He believes the P-Solo wins by "an inch." Massive agrees, although he usually gives it an inch and a half.

At least he's admitting what's important to him--both looks and quality. And I've heard some other people who have outsiders into the studio make similar comments. Sometimes the "WOW" factor actually does matter, to impress your clientelle.

Um... or the hunnies.

[jar4ever]

The P-Solo is like more then twice as expensive as the RNP per channel, so I'm not even sure it's that fair of a comparison.

[MASSIVE Mastering]

If I ever bought gear because of how it looked, I don't think I ever would have discovered Crane Song.

I hate green.

But now I think I have more invested in just Crane Song gear than I have in my monitoring. Or at least close to it. I wouldn't care if they used orange swirl knobs as long as they sound the way they do. Once you hear it, it looks sexy...

The P-Solo is like more then twice as expensive as the RNP per channel, so I'm not even sure it's that fair of a comparison.

It's sort of fair - The P-Solo sounds awesome for around $500 a channel. But the RNP (although I still give a tiny edge to the P-Solo) sounds FREAKIN' AMAZING at around $250 per channel. And sometimes, you just need two preamps, you know?

[.Jon]

why?

because the RNP looks like the most amateur piece of ugly looking sh*t
it looks like a little children toy u got from toyworld for $10
esp when it says 'REALLY NICE PREAMP' that just makes it look so childish like its tellin ppl 'hey look im a preamp'.. i hate explainin everyone who comes in my studio that 'nah it actually is one of the best blah blah' u get sick of doing that all the time
seriously
if any of you who are living a outgoing lifestyle with lots of hunnies and club dudes comin around ur studio, u dont want that RNP sitting there for real! if ur a studio geek then its fine..

but yeh ive tried it, it sounds pro.. but ive also tried the true systems p-solo which sounds an INCH better but looks AMAZING

man girls can get wet by just looking at that sexy red shining, super proffesional looking P-solo box for real and it doesnt hurt that it sounds better than RNP

anyways i guess it depends on opinions, sum ppl are strictly only sound quality while mine is a mix of studio looks+quality

LOL

[jar4ever]

Well, yeah I'm all for having multiple preamps for different flavors. However, I don't think its fair to say you should get a p-solo over a RNP, because they are are totally different price categories.

[_controlfreak]

I am not ILLmatic. Knock it off with the PM's; quit buggin' me.

[foofightingjohn]

remember the millenium falcon, "its not much to look at but shes got it where it counts, kid". And Han Solo ends up with princess leia remember.

[_controlfreak]

And I don't know about sexy; but I found the P-Solo's shape to be extremely inconvenient. I could NOT find a good spot for it! Would it have been so hard to cram it into 1U? The P-Solo sounded great when I jingled my keys in front of it; too bad I'm not a better singer.

[ILLmatic]

It's sort of fair - The P-Solo sounds awesome for around $500 a channel. But the RNP (although I still give a tiny edge to the P-Solo) sounds FREAKIN' AMAZING at around $250 per channel. And sometimes, you just need two preamps, you know?

I have tested both of these with the U47 Neumann, EV RE20, Rode NTK through the RME Fireface and I would actually say that P-SOLO is FREAKIN AMAZING for $500 a channel while the RNP is JUST AMAZING for $250 a channel. I could tell the difference VERY EASILY. even one of my girlfriends (without musical ears) could tell the difference. I dont know how to say it but the P-solo has the 'rich, vintage, classic' flavour to it that you hear on all your favourite songs. that is why Neumann has specifically sponsored this preamp. the RNP has a very clean 'in your face' sound which sounds very proffesional on the high-end. this is all obviously without compression.

controlfreak i understand what your saying, i dont like to put this preamp on the rack because of its attractiveness i rather have it standing alone.. basically before i buy something i let all my peers know.. and i told everyone i was getting a new preamp which will give me pro results and im spending over $1000 on it (U$550 in US) so obviously they expected somethin amazing. unfortunately i got the RNP and everyone laughin their ass off.. they were actually sayin 'why dont u just tell me u have money problems and got a cheap one' i had to show them the website with the price and the website is so amateur that they laughed even harder. then the chics who came in and were like 'wheres this pro-results preamp ur talking about' and i had to close my eyes and point at the little ugly toyworld RNP box and go 'thats the one' and then start hearing the laughter like 'aww this is cute, can i play with it' .. it actually made me look like some cheapass unproffesional [dongle-head].. and NO ONE STILL believed me that it costed me $1000 (U$500).. even when i showed them the audio results, since they have non-musical ears and already a 'cheap' perception of the FMR they will obviously just think its 'average' when it was really bloody PRO. i just couldnt handle explaining everyone walkin into my studio about the FMR RNP. i had to sell that piece of sh*t which embarresed the hell out of me..

once i got the True Systems P-solo, everything changed. it sounded better and more 'rich' and looked just perfect to cover up my previous embarresment. when ppl walk in the room and see that shiny pro red box with the mic cable attached to it..just makes u feel u spent the money rightly. value for the money, overall.

although i should say that if you HAVE to record 2 CHANNELS at a time and have limited funds, then DEFENETELY go for the FMR RNP. if you have funds and want pro sounds 2 channels at a time then get 2 P-solo's or even a grace 101/dav-bg with the p-solo. i tested those 2 preamps as well and they are close to the P-solo sound. if you just wanna record 1 channel at a time with pro-sounds then P-SOLO hands down!

(i didnt even know the P-solo exists until i found out that craig david used it to record his vocals for the hit 'fill me in' through the U47)

[Weasel9992]

What are you...15? 16? You're talking a bunch of adolescent nonsense, and I for one would prefer it if you'd knock it off. If you're going to post on this forum, then grow up.

I use an RNP right along with preamps that cost 10 times as much per channel. Sheesh.

Weez

[.Jon]

I love this thread

variable eye pressure

[ILLmatic]

What are you...15? 16? You're talking a bunch of adolescent nonsense, and I for one would prefer it if you'd knock it off. If you're going to post on this forum, then grow up.

I use an RNP right along with preamps that cost 10 times as much per channel. Sheesh.

Weez

Im 20 and I was just telling the detailed story on what happened. nothing immature about that. you should grow up as you seem to be really in love with your RNP that your emotionally attached and anything negative on it makes you feel more guilty of purchasing that. i never said its bad. sound quality wise its almost similar to the rest in that bracket (not talking about channels here). im talking about the looks and the overall product. and you seem upset.

I have experienced preamps which cost 10 times as much per channel as well, that doesnt have anything to do with how sh*t your RNP looks.

no offence intended.

[Nimh]

The only thing I have to note is that it's good to know your friends are idiots.